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Jam, you're a bigoted disgrace to the licensed Officials Association. SK tried to give you a heads up on spewing your political and racial tendencies to no avail. Then you ignorantly doubled down. UNBELIEVABLE ! All professions (umpires and referees included) contain the good and the bad. You've publicly stated what side you reside on. The one with very little integrity. You have a right to question what I witnessed in person in Bradenton on September 12, 2012. But to turn it into what you have done only reinforces your obvious prejudices. You weren't there. You no nothing of that game. Your knowledge of the rules is inconsequential. You witnessed ZERO of Miami at Manatee. Retire your whistle Pop's, you're too jaded to be fair and impartial.
You don't have any say in what I do what my life leftist. You know nothing about officiating, and you have to be one of the stupidest people that I have ever had the unfortunate luck to come across. That is all you leftists have, just call people who think different from you and have different opinions "racist" "bigot" "sexist" "homophobe' etc. You don't know a damn thing about me and how I conduct my business leftist, and you never will. I believe that you should forget about a subject you know nothing about, officiating, and focus on what you do know, working for the Democratic Party News-Journal and taking marching orders and talking points from Obummer, Dementia Joe, Bill Clinton's wife, Nasty Nancy, and Chucky Boy.
 
Jambun82, I read through your most recent posts on this thread and one common theme in all your post for me seems to come through loud and clear -DRINKING PROBLEM-. So while Sliver looks to find harmony among chaos, I instead will just call attention to root cause. I bring Atlanta's own Rehab with yet another diddy about alcohol addiction:

Gatorman001, I have never had a full alcoholic beverage in my life. I have had a few sips of a Coors Light the night that I turned 21, and never drank alcohol again. I have a right to challenge a know-nothing like Dan in Daytona when he posts his usual nonsense about the officiating, a subject he knows nothing about. I will exercise that right when I am able to. I hope that is understood.
 
He wouldn't be the first, but I know he can carry on an intelligent conversation. I've asked some rules questions that he's helped explain.

We just live in a nasty/divided country - designed by the two party system and supported by media (Whether for agenda or because blatant conflict sells). Its the rabbit hole everything ultimately goes down during the times we're living.

Jam, I'm impressed that you remember me being for trying to normalize relations with Cuba from back in the Obama years. Tell me why that's bad? Hell, we did after actual shooting wars with Germany, Japan, 1/2 of Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. Remember what I said then? That I'd rather see American tourists with greenback dollars go into a country to effect foreign policy, than Americans dressed in green fatigues with M-16s who are going to die and kill there.

As an independent, I get to chose from the entire menu, not just order from Column A or B. And that was one of the few things I agreed with during the Obama administration, and it is one of the even fewer thing's I agree with so far in the Biden administration. Or we can allow China complete, unfettered access to the country and have their influence and military hardware sitting 90 miles away.
Silver King, that is great to know that you feel that rewarding the corrupt Cuban leadership is acceptable. I am sure you were one of the "there is nothing that we can do" and "let the Cubans handle it themselves" when their were protests for real freedom on the Island, like Dementia Joe and most of his followers. Also, I find it very hard to accept that you are an Independent as you claim, since I have seen many leftist positions taken by you. Maybe, you will be willing to provide me some examples of your "Independence" in political matters? Thank you.
 
Silver King, that is great to know that you feel that rewarding the corrupt Cuban leadership is acceptable. I am sure you were one of the "there is nothing that we can do" and "let the Cubans handle it themselves" when their were protests for real freedom on the Island, like Dementia Joe and most of his followers. Also, I find it very hard to accept that you are an Independent as you claim, since I have seen many leftist positions taken by you. Maybe, you will be willing to provide me some examples of your "Independence" in political matters? Thank you.
You know the thing about being independent such as myself is sometimes you agree with the left sometimes you agree with the right and you typically find it hard to agree with anyone who is essentially hard core extreme left or right.... so if you've seen him agree on the left that's because he's truly independent.

Also there's absolutely zero reason for a person to lie about being independent.... you he me Dan or anyone else has to do nothing to prove who they are and what side they do or do not support.

I'm independent.... thats it that's the whole tweet if anyone questions that doesn't matter to me.
 
You know the thing about being independent such as myself is sometimes you agree with the left sometimes you agree with the right and you typically find it hard to agree with anyone who is essentially hard core extreme left or right.... so if you've seen him agree on the left that's because he's truly independent.

Also there's absolutely zero reason for a person to lie about being independent.... you he me Dan or anyone else has to do nothing to prove who they are and what side they do or do not support.

I'm independent.... thats it that's the whole tweet if anyone questions that doesn't matter to me.
Peezy, you and I had a great conversation over the telephone once, and you know how much that I respect you. I used to be quite friendly with Dan, and I tried to explain some issues about officiating that he seems to not be able to let go of at the lunch that we had, and several times when we have run into each other in public. He does not seem to understand what I explained to him, and I have had it with his "inner-city school got screwed because of racist officials" act and his constant shilling of his former employer. I believe in standing up for what I think is right, and I will continue to conduct myself in this way as long as I am able to.
 
Peezy, you and I had a great conversation over the telephone once, and you know how much that I respect you. I used to be quite friendly with Dan, and I tried to explain some issues about officiating that he seems to not be able to let go of at the lunch that we had, and several times when we have run into each other in public. He does not seem to understand what I explained to him, and I have had it with his "inner-city school got screwed because of racist officials" act and his constant shilling of his former employer. I believe in standing up for what I think is right, and I will continue to conduct myself in this way as long as I am able to.
Your good with me... you all are really.
 
My personal experience with debating politics on a social media site is a useless endeavor. It usually, like this one, turns into an emotional name-calling event where the facts and evidence disappear.

BTW, when the person I’m having a discussion/debate begins name-calling and personally attacking me I know they have run out of valid points to make.
 
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My personal experience with debating politics on a social media site is a useless endeavor. It usually, like this one, turns into an emotional name-calling event where the facts and evidence disappear.

BTW, when the person I’m having a discussion/debate begins name-calling and personally attacking me I know they have run out of valid points to make.
Does that include the names that Dan called me?
 
Does that include the names that Dan called me?
Grow up Baby Clown (Name). Mark's a nice guy (I'm not). Leave him out of this BS. Like you told SK, this is between your dumba$$ (name) and myself. I challenge your lack of intelligence (name) to find on this thread where I used "RACE" as a reason for the poor and unfair treatment I BELIEVE Central got at Manatee. I might add, Manatee was far from being all Caucasian. Speaking of team sports, of all ages, I'm of the belief (right or wrong) the Home Team usually gets an advantage in calls. Mainland gets a lot more favorable calls at home then ever on the road. From 2000-2018 I missed two Buc games (at Pine Ridge, at Bartrum Trial-Monday nite). That's 19 yrs of home and away games. I Know what I saw during those years. I saw the flags, the calls. I even admitted I could have been wrong to both Mark and Gatorman about Bradenton. The early post are there to read !!!! You made it racial Chump (Name) from your very first post on this thread to your last. Same as on Josh's board. You're the fool (name) with the issues that keeps bringing up a political/racial angle. READ THE POST you very low comprehension level (name) xxxxxx-er (name).
 
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Grow up Baby Clown (Name). Mark's a nice guy (I'm not). Leave him out of this BS. Like you told SK, this is between your dumba$$ (name) and myself. I challenge your lack of intelligence (name) to find on this thread where I used "RACE" as a reason for the poor and unfair treatment I BELIEVE Central got at Manatee. I might add, Manatee was far from being all Caucasian. Speaking of team sports, of all ages, I'm of the belief (right or wrong) the Home Team usually gets an advantage in calls. Mainland gets a lot more favorable calls at home then ever on the road. From 2000-2018 I missed two Buc games (at Pine Ridge, at Bartrum Trial-Monday nite). That's 19 yrs of home and away games. I Know what I saw during those years. I saw the flags, the calls. I even admitted I could have been wrong to both Mark and Gatorman about Bradenton. The early post are there to read !!!! You made it racial Chump (Name) from your very first post on this thread to your last. Same as on Josh's board. You're the fool (name) with the issues that keeps bringing up a political/racial angle. READ THE POST you very low comprehension level (name) xxxxxx-er (name).
Oh, you are not nice. What are you going to do, commit violence against me leftist? Who are you to call what kind of treatment from the officials that Central received at Manatee? You don't know a darn thing about officiating and you never will. I tried to explain it to you on at least a few times, but you are too stupid and set in your leftist "find racism behind every stone" ways. You don't know anything about who gets favorable calls because you know next to nothing about the subject. You forget that you accused the officials in a Raines-Bolles playoff game a few years back of being members of the Klu Klux Klan because Raines had a lot of penalties, justified as the film showed, and Bolles won the game. You didn't know about the officials being chased off the field, having their dressing room wall pounded on, and having to have police escorts to their cars. Is that kind of response acceptable to you leftist? Were those people who looked like Obummer's sons, or are do only black victims of violence look like his son?
 
I've been a 2nd Amendment guy since before you were born, believe in less government, believe in judicial system enforcing existing laws, believe open borders will bankrupt America financially.

Now can you ever remember agreeing with anything the democrats have done? Or are you just a robtron (as most of them) who allows others to think for you and vote party line? If so, you're as dangerous to the American political process as illegal migrant voters.

How about this : "I'm independent.... thats it that's the whole tweet if anyone questions that doesn't matter to me."

My last piece of advice, go back and erase some of these attacks before someone from your association sees them. All they prove is you're easily rattled and have some deep seeded implicit biases, which is not a trait of Football Referees at any level. And I know, my college roommate just finished his 35 year career refereeing Div 2 (Did a National Title game) and NAIA football.
 
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Oh, you are not nice. What are you going to do, commit violence against me leftist? Who are you to call what kind of treatment from the officials that Central received at Manatee? You don't know a darn thing about officiating and you never will. I tried to explain it to you on at least a few times, but you are too stupid and set in your leftist "find racism behind every stone" ways. You don't know anything about who gets favorable calls because you know next to nothing about the subject. You forget that you accused the officials in a Raines-Bolles playoff game a few years back of being members of the Klu Klux Klan because Raines had a lot of penalties, justified as the film showed, and Bolles won the game. You didn't know about the officials being chased off the field, having their dressing room wall pounded on, and having to have police escorts to their cars. Is that kind of response acceptable to you leftist? Were those people who looked like Obummer's sons, or are do only black victims of violence look like his son?
Come on loser, now you're making things up. Desperation has set in. Where did you come up with the Raines-Bolles payoff game ? Prove I ever mentioned that in my life. I've never seen Jax Raines play. Bolles I've seen play many times. Corky Rogers was a class act. I usually sit on their side, You're pitiful. Everything is race with you. Go away clown...
(EDIT) On further reflection, I saw Raines at Gainesville in the late 1990's in a championship final. Don't remember the team, game or result.
(EDIT) Jax Raines 32 Glades Central 27, 4A 1997 State Championship, Gainesville, Fl... Thanks Wavebb
 
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Will you just answer my question please?
Jambun, my answer to your question was the answer.

If you go back to my post that you were first referring to I was writing about my personal experiences debating politics on the internet. Your discussion with Dan began about opinions, facts and evidence. Then name calling and insults began diluting the conversation. It had begun to overtake it with personal insults. That’s okay because it added some color(no pun intended) and entertainment but it was not leading to, at the very least, you both agreeing to disagree. You can post whatever you want within the rules of the site. That is your business.

With all that being said, MY POST WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT YOU AND/OR DAN.

At the risk of still insulting you, Jambun, I am hitting Post Reply. I’m already late for church.
 
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You claimed that the officials must have been wearing "hoods" when the game was talked about on the board and how many more penalties Raines had than Bolles. That was the whole reason why we had the lunch together, I was tried of reading about your claiming racism by officials against inner-city schools. How could you not remember that? There used to be a coach from an inner-city school in Duval County that used to post on this message board, and him and I used to get into arguments a lot.
 
I've been a 2nd Amendment guy since before you were born, believe in less government, believe in judicial system enforcing existing laws, believe open borders will bankrupt America financially.

Now can you ever remember agreeing with anything the democrats have done? Or are you just a robtron (as most of them) who allows others to think for you and vote party line? If so, you're as dangerous to the American political process as illegal migrant voters.

How about this : "I'm independent.... thats it that's the whole tweet if anyone questions that doesn't matter to me."

My last piece of advice, go back and erase some of these attacks before someone from your association sees them. All they prove is you're easily rattled and have some deep seeded implicit biases, which is not a trait of Football Referees at any level. And I know, my college roommate just finished his 35 year career refereeing Div 2 (Did a National Title game) and NAIA football.
There are a few issues in which my personal belief is closer to the Democratic Party, but unlike you, I don't claim to be an Independent. I am a lifelong member of the Republican party. I don't hide behind some veneer of "both sides are wrong" so I am an "Independent."
 
Jambun, my answer to your question was the answer.

If you go back to my post that you were first referring to I was writing about my personal experiences debating politics on the internet. Your discussion with Dan began about opinions, facts and evidence. Then name calling and insults began diluting the conversation. It had begun to overtake it with personal insults. That’s okay because it added some color(no pun intended) and entertainment but it was not leading to, at the very least, you both agreeing to disagree. You can post whatever you want within the rules of the site. That is your business.

With all that being said, MY POST WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT YOU AND/OR DAN.

At the risk of still insulting you, Jambun, I am hitting Post Reply. I’m already late for church.
All right.
 
I don't hide behind some veneer of "both sides are wrong" so I am an "Independent."
That's just the facts, why don't you explain to me how this country is where it is, if both sides have been right? There is no compromise, there is only division (as you display and foster) and political maneuvering. The people haven't been part of the equation for years, but I don't expect lemmings to recognize that.
 
There's no award trophy or moral high ground for political affiliation.
 
I don't feel that everyone is right all of the time. I don't care for people like you who claim to be "Independents" don't take a stand for anything, and sit on the sidelines so you won't be criticized. Of course, you did take a stand to help your hero Fidel Castro and his criminal family and Government who have made a cesspool of a potentially great Island.
 
No there isn't Peezy, but there are people who will stand up for their opinions and point-of-view even though they will be criticized.
 
The Jay Sekulow Band, also happens to play this song frequently, Sekulow who just also
happen to be a lead attorney for former president Trump and also is the head of the ACLJ ( The American Center for Law & Justice). One of the lead singers for the Sekulow Band is also the former lead singer for 70s Band - Kansas

 
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The Jay Sekulow Band, also happens to play this song frequently, Sekulow who just also
happen to be a lead attorney for former president Trump and also is the head of the ACLJ ( The American Center for Law & Justice). One of the lead singers for the Sekulow Band is also the former lead singer for 70s Band - Kansas

No kidding? I did not know this.
 
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