Other than IMG not being able to compete in the state playoffs what's the difference between these two schools?
IMG vs. St Thomas
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99% of STA's players probably live within and/or went to middle school 20 miles of the school.
Can't say the same about IMG.
There are more teams in STA's geographical region that occasionally compete with and sometimes upset them.
Can't say the same about IMG.
Can't say the same about IMG.
There are more teams in STA's geographical region that occasionally compete with and sometimes upset them.
Can't say the same about IMG.
I agree but that is because they haven't scheduled them Venice is set to play them this year. I agree Miami teams are very talented but they all have their up and down years this doesn't seem to happen for STA. I agree I am sure some of the kids come from around the area but I'm willing to bet they get their fair share of kids from the Miami area along with who ever else they can pick up from opposing schools in the area. I understand being a fan of the team so you're bias but the FHSAA should step in my opinion. STA has been loaded for a long long time.
So if a team is loaded for a long time, and playing by the rules set in place for them, the FHSSA should step in?
They essentially did. All schools private or public are essentially open enrollment now?
What else do you want?
STA to start all games outside of Broward and Dade -21 pts in the hole?
HS Football socialism at it's finest...
They essentially did. All schools private or public are essentially open enrollment now?
What else do you want?
STA to start all games outside of Broward and Dade -21 pts in the hole?
HS Football socialism at it's finest...
It's easy to say it's socialism when you're always on the winning side. Just because they've done it a long time doesn't make it right. I'm glad the rule has changed I hope IMG is allowed to compete for a state title now that it has been lifted. STA is doing everything they're legally allowed to do but don't act like they're not taking advantage of it.
I won't act like they are not taking maximizing the rules put forth to them but don't act like other privates are not operating to their max also. Don't act like schools like TCA, CCC, Tampa Catholic , Chaminade-Madonna and many others don't max out the same way.
Again, it helps when you are a winner, right?
Yo yo yo. dont go'n say know bad stuff bowt Madonna... U onnt knead know prollems see.
It ain't bad. It's simply facts. Chaminade-Madonna has been very active with transfers of late as have most successful private schools.
Y'all do know STA is located in FT Lauderdale right? Wasn't Ft lauderdale the second leading city to have players in the league behind Miami? Yes I'll say nomore then 5 players on STA roster is from dade.... I'll say 60 to 75% of STA is from Ft lauderdale in a 8 mile radius from surrounding neighborhoods... Within those 8 miles you probably have 5 hs and 2 private schools I can think of that's on that radius... Probably more... Like Broward said it's not their fault.. Plus you still have AHP and Chaminade getting a lot of players...
I understand where you coming from but you got to understand how we see it down here in sfla... People only tripping about STA.. They don't care about what the other privates are doing or how many championships they are winning such as TCA.. Honestly we have othe privates that are great programs such as AHP, Columbus, Chaminade... But like I will always say publics some how compete and beat them including STA... It's a reason Columbus I believe hasn't win state yet and they are gonna be loaded this up coming year... It's a reason AHP has won back to back ships every year.. I honestly think they should drop one class and mix the top classes up.....
IMG are not hypocrites about what they are doing.
They run a national program with recruiting, scouting, scheduling, D1 preparation, ACT test takers, etc. and freely admit that.
Sta does the same while claiming they don't.
Big difference.
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And to see something written in English, it has to be on paper or text or pics, sooooo where's the receipts?
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Don't you love it how the very minute Venice schedules IMG they start praising them, and start cross-referencing STA ....
Venice is the kind of program that insecurely looks for approval and praise the moment they want to start doing things that elite teams do. I.e. "Look at me everybody!'
Here's a hint: That stuff is earned with grit, not talked/bragged about in February....
Venice is the kind of program that insecurely looks for approval and praise the moment they want to start doing things that elite teams do. I.e. "Look at me everybody!'
Here's a hint: That stuff is earned with grit, not talked/bragged about in February....
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Exactly! Listen y'all gonna need to go extend further then those 18 miles to get more players at Venice...
Radius is beyond 18 miles already.....Several of the top 10 players on the Venice roster have only been at Venice a year or two. In fact the top 2016 offensive and defensive player at Venice COMBINED only attended Venice 2 1/2 years.
Yet STA is a PRIVATE and when they operate in that fashion. They are in the wrong....
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I'm going to Haiti next month so let me get that goud!
He's only mad at STA cause a lot of kids in a Fertil area want to go play there.. But not mad at no other private schools that operates the same way. Then wants to compare a boarding school to a private school... Like really....
Of course... I guarantee you though if Venice had to play a Carol City or Southridge and they were handed a good crackdown, they would start pointing fingers.
Venice has the typical characteristics of a bully. They can dish it out but they can't take it.
In all this string has just made me have a lot more respect for a lot of teams around the state.
With Venice , I sense a feeling of entitlement. 2016 Venice is no better than 2015 Braden River and perhaps 2015 Naples yet the sky is falling when their season ends.....
i heard about a rumor about a team down my way that might be playing IMG but I can confirm the team will be playing Bishop Gorman. AHP beat IMG before...
I am not a Venice or IMG guy I just want to know where you're coming from with all of this? I didn't see anyone praise IMG do they have an advantage over most teams they play? Yes. Are they allowed to compete in state playoffs? No. Does STA have an advantage (Along with other private schools) over the teams they play? Yes. Those are facts Venice will just have to deal with it if they want to win a state championship. As for STA winning championships starting in February with their "Grit" I'm assuming you mean hardwork and toughness because you're talking about the off season. STA does not win with those things they win with talent... pure talent.
I'm done comparing Venice to STA....I can barely compare Venice to McArthur or Mater Academy for starters....
You can think as you wish about why STA is successful. Talent and depth is absolutely the main reason, but it almost sounds as if you are insinuating that STA does not work as hard as other programs - like Venice. I can almost guarantee you that most of those STA kids have dedicated their lives to football for 7-11 months a year since they were probably 14 years old.
I am not going to comment how other counties or teams grind but I can tell you if at the FL Varsity HS level you are not training 8 months a year towards football - you are probably struggling to compete.
Ok since you cannot compare Venice to STA can you compare STA to Plant? or any other team they played in the playoffs? They won every game in a blow out. I assure you that programs on the west coast work hard and I'm sure some on the east coast do as well but don't think for a second that any extra sprints or lifts are the reasons why STA has won so much. They are a great program don't get me wrong but don't hold up you state trophy and think you had to over come any adversity. You can say teams are complaining and being sore losers all you want but it's a lot easier to do that too when the rules are in your favor.
Plant - not really.
The rest of the 7A teams STA played in the playoffs - not really- Dwyer probably put up the best fight, but overall , none of the 7A teams looked significantly better than one another versus STA in the 7A post-season.
When you have more talent, speed and size and you put in hard work....you will generally be beat opponents that can't match up. Sorry...but it is what it is.
I hear your comment about STA and holding up a state trophy but at the same time don't think Venice belonged even sniffing the field in Orlando either. That team was just not a typical LARGE class caliber state qualifying team. Sorry..it just wasn't. Just would have been bad matchup versus other state powers. Venice was lucky to get as far as the did. They are whining and you have better teams like Mainland and BTW taking their 2016 lumps.
How do you think Venice would have faired versus 6A South Carol City or 8A South Miami Southridge- the way they were playing late season?
Bottom line- STA is not the reason Venice was was not good enough to see Orlando in 2016.
Bad matchups for a soft, slow, and small team versus any SFL power from that region are.
But t keep thinking as you wish...
As to the rules being in "favor" of STA...
So let me get this right...The rules are in STA's favor or the rules are in PRIVATES favor, or the rules are in SFL's favor being a hotbed?
Or Venice is actually the team flirting with the rules as a PUBLIC and recruiting players from teams like Northport and Sarasota for there Jr and Sr years? The best offensive and best defensive players transferred to Venice from those schools for their Junior and Senior years, or is that statement incorrect?
Let's put that to rest. The rules are the same for all now, RIGHT?
So let's end the whining and do the talking on the field,. Fair enough?
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good thing he done AGAIN - he ready to stop now he said what he had to say. Pls stop, before he make me puke.
Here is a potential glimpse of the future with same rules applied..... Not much of a difference. I understand advantage of talent, advantage of metro-area etc....
I don't understand the disposition of hatred and anger towards STA.
I suggest you contact the FHSAA and suggest perhaps a Division 1 and Division 2 proposal/bill.
Public's over here want to play STA and versus the best level of football they can though, so Venice may also want to consider going Independent as the easy way out.
Funny thing is when Armwood, Lakeland, Tampa Plant, and Manatee were winning all those titles on the gulf coast, and enticing athletes to come join their programs things were pretty quiet over there. Then an overated Venice gets spanked and it's the end of fairness. No one here is a STA or IMG fan. Really, name one ? You guys are preaching to the choir. Broward and Zoe are just repp'in S FL. And in some cases busting balls. Your complaints should be directed at the FHSAA. This is a "homer" dominated message board for Christ sake. It's about fun, entertainment, porn...ah..that's another site....Can't we all just get along ? No, but do you really want too ? BrowardHandicapper, STA sucks...
Now you have gone too far! Meet me at Trump's in Boca. You got a whuppin coming...and Mainland swallows!
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I admit to this... I am a Broward/SFL homer and if fingers are pointed...I'm game.
I understand I may eat my words on a forum or message board but that is the risk I take.... That is kind of the concept of a forum...
No. It has to be in Broward. I am definitely tougher when I fight in Broward . That is a fact.
Agree 100%. Play the game long enough and somebody will get you. No one is immune. There's some very clever individuals out there. Go cautiously my friend.
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