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Sad, very sad..

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Even though I don't go to football games anymore, went twice this year, left at halftime at each game, it was a sad day for Hardee fans.

Decided to look at the score at halftime and seen it was Booker 50 Hardee 0 at halftime...not the 4th qrt but HALFTIME. This has to be historical for Hardee football and sad at the same time.

To be honest, Hardee had zero offense this whole year from the 2 games I watched, zilch, nothing, and this reflects going up in ranks or those who controls things.
 
Although their record doesn't indicate it, Booker had what I would call a team of all stars. Hardee wasn't the only 1st round blow out, the entire state was littered with 1st round blow outs this year.

We have too many classifications, I believe we need just 6. Probably result in a team like Hardee either dropping a classification and/or not qualifying for the playoffs.
 
or leave FHSAA and move over to the other side which I hope happens. I will be honest with you, high school football became very less enjoyable with me when we played American Plantation in the playoffs, I was down there talking with a gentleman who worked for the school part time. He told me he worked there to payoff his daughter's schooling which is a good deal between parent and the school. But he proceeded to tell me how they were actually recruiting from out of state, bring in players and give them free tuition. I sent an email to that Dr director at FHSAA at the time back in 2012/13 don't recall the year and talked with him about this. His reply was "my hands are tied by state legislatures"!! That's when high school football became less and less interesting for me and eventually I decided to quit watching.

Schools like Hardee and Desoto who use 99.9% homegrown players, who may get a transfer once in a while should leave FHSAA and move over to the other league. Just my humble opinion. There are many others in Hardee who believes the same way I do.

Private school recruiting has ruined high school football!! To be honest I quit watching college football after they began paying the players. I really don't care about the NFL, they are way overpaid, example the QB for Tampa Bay Bucs!!! He hasn't won a thing and they give him that huge contract and then push out your best ever Linebacker you ever had instead of giving him more compensation. The LB helped the team win a Super Bowl, the current QB wasn't even on the team but he is reward more. I hate the NFL because of this.
 
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Cat, this is the first year I’ve even paid attention to the SSAA. I was pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good football which was enjoyable to watch. In the regular season I saw Umatilla play Mount Dora Christian. In the playoffs I attended Christ’s Church vs Master’s Academy. The SSAA might be the right situation for your Wildcats.
 
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H-Cat, live long enough like we have and you'll see the pendulum swing I don't care what league you're playing in. It's like penalties, some bad calls hurt you, some help you - generally balances out. Sometimes "fer ye and sometimes agin ye". I was on the up swing as a Tarpon, then there was a down turn, another upswing, then a down turn. You're no babe in the woods, high school coaches have recruited for 30 years - big teams like Valdosta since the early 1960s.

I still enjoy watching a Tarpon game on a Friday night in Punta Gorda. I always said I wouldn't trade the experience me and my three boys got here as Tarpons in any single season - for a State Title elsewhere that season. We rode with the Tarpons and we're the winningest family in program history with 84 wins.

I'm also pretty happy where we are at this year - a few mercenary kids left the program - a couple to a 5-5 team. But we finished 7-4 and just about beat Ft Myers -- who has the dean of SW FL coaches -- in the playoffs.

Successful programs get copied, coaches retire or move on, support and community change - if it were static what fun would that be bringing a program back? And now there's free agency. Teams will figure it out. I've already heard some big rumors about next year. But still plan on watching next year, home games anyway.
 
With all due respect Cat but Devin White over Derrick Brooks?
At the time Devin White was the best LB on the team, my mistake for saying "ever had", Derrick Brooke's was the best LB in the whole NFL history of this game so far.

Devin White is/was 10 times as better as David as David is a hyped up LB for commentators.
I see the field from a 10,000 view, not as a fan in the stands who watches the ball. It's a gift to be able to do this during the game.
 
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H-Cat, live long enough like we have and you'll see the pendulum swing I don't care what league you're playing in. It's like penalties, some bad calls hurt you, some help you - generally balances out. Sometimes "fer ye and sometimes agin ye". I was on the up swing as a Tarpon, then there was a down turn, another upswing, then a down turn. You're no babe in the woods, high school coaches have recruited for 30 years - big teams like Valdosta since the early 1960s.

I still enjoy watching a Tarpon game on a Friday night in Punta Gorda. I always said I wouldn't trade the experience me and my three boys got here as Tarpons in any single season - for a State Title elsewhere that season. We rode with the Tarpons and we're the winningest family in program history with 84 wins.

I'm also pretty happy where we are at this year - a few mercenary kids left the program - a couple to a 5-5 team. But we finished 7-4 and just about beat Ft Myers -- who has the dean of SW FL coaches -- in the playoffs.

Successful programs get copied, coaches retire or move on, support and community change - if it were static what fun would that be bringing a program back? And now there's free agency. Teams will figure it out. I've already heard some big rumors about next year. But still plan on watching next year, home games anyway.
SK I know there will always be up and down years, I always knew this. Hardee has had teams that has had up and down years, this is how HS and College works, players move on, new players come in. Even when Hardee had down years they had an offense but this year was just something I never seen, they had no offense whatsoever and thats why I said it was just sad.

I'm not complaining, I am just pointing out what I seen. Example, whenever your QB throws more interceptions than completions maybe something isn't right or if he constantly overthrowing passes something is off. I trust Derren, he knows what he is doing, so this isn't about the HC whatsoever as he has proven himself throughout his history of being here. I know it will take time to get back into the groove, but there are other offensive schemes better than the POWER I. I looked back in my memory and asked "What was the best offense that worked for Hardee under Derren" and believe it or not it was the veer offense. His last year he went to the veer and it worked really well. But, I am pretty sure you have to have a QB that knows how to read the defensive tackle well.

Sometime ago I watch two schemes that blew me away. They we called 7 Clinic and 9 Clinic. Videos below:





If you like running the ball, these are the two schemes to use.
 
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SK I know there will always be up and down years, I always knew this. Hardee has had teams that has had up and down years, this is how HS and College works, players move on, new players come in. Even when Hardee had down years they had an offense but this year was just something I never seen, they had no offense whatsoever and thats why I said it was just sad.

I'm not complaining, I am just pointing out what I seen. Example, whenever your QB throws more interceptions than completions maybe something isn't right or if he constantly overthrowing passes something is off. I trust Derren, he knows what he is doing, so this isn't about the HC whatsoever as he has proven himself throughout his history of being here. I know it will take time to get back into the groove, but there are other offensive schemes better than the POWER I. I looked back in my memory and asked "What was the best offense that worked for Hardee under Derren" and believe it or not it was the veer offense. His last year he went to the veer and it worked really well. But, I am pretty sure you have to have a QB that knows how to read the defensive tackle well.

Sometime ago I watch two schemes that blew me away. They we called 7 Clinic and 9 Clinic. Videos below:





If you like running the ball, these are the two schemes to use.
You realize there was some very special talent on the Apopka team illustrated in that 1st video, starting with Chandler Cox who went on to play at Auburn and then Martez Ivy at OT was a 5* OT.....the team as a whole won the state title in Florida's largest classification and was coached by none other than the Sexy Beast himself Rick Darlington.......maybe you can get the folks in Hardee County to lure him away from Deland HS where he is at currently.
 
Believe it or not Derren and his staff are good. Hopefully they go to another scheme if not it is what it is. It will get better, there are always ups and down years, it's the way it goes in HS and college.

I may go back watching the game in 2025, let's see what's in store for all of us, I think you guys are going to love what's coming. I cannot say much more, God Bless..
 
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Hope you go back, high school is still unpredictable and fun to watch.
I'll go back hopefully in 2025. After finally waiting 13 years to have surgery in March 2023 I wanted to give myself sometime to heal properly. I still live with headaches about 3 days a week and maybe once a month I get arm pain but overall its 50% better. Now my wife is suffering with the same exact things and hers is from working on concrete all her life as a daycare teacher. Her issues hit her quickly vs mine. She is now suffering the same exact things I did, pain in both arms and the headaches are horrific. I feel so bad that she is going through this so all these young kids who thinks they can use their spines as toys best rethink of what they are doing, If our insurance companies would just pay for stem cell treatments that is activated in our own bodies we wouldn't be having all these issues. I seen how it works firsthand and watched a man have a hole in his back from gangrene from diabetes to new skin, no scarring, you couldn't tell he had surgery there to remove the gangrene. The company used him as a test subject for free and they used pig intestines in powder form and sprinkled it on his each week for 6-8 weeks, it was mind blowing watch it heal itself from pig intestine powder that activated his own stem cells to heal the area.

Right now football is on the back burn, it will get better and I will get interested again soon. Just pray a lot of things are fixed in our system, we have been enslaved far too long to these bureaucrats. See y'all around..
 
I'll go back hopefully in 2025. After finally waiting 13 years to have surgery in March 2023 I wanted to give myself sometime to heal properly. I still live with headaches about 3 days a week and maybe once a month I get arm pain but overall its 50% better. Now my wife is suffering with the same exact things and hers is from working on concrete all her life as a daycare teacher. Her issues hit her quickly vs mine. She is now suffering the same exact things I did, pain in both arms and the headaches are horrific. I feel so bad that she is going through this so all these young kids who thinks they can use their spines as toys best rethink of what they are doing, If our insurance companies would just pay for stem cell treatments that is activated in our own bodies we wouldn't be having all these issues. I seen how it works firsthand and watched a man have a hole in his back from gangrene from diabetes to new skin, no scarring, you couldn't tell he had surgery there to remove the gangrene. The company used him as a test subject for free and they used pig intestines in powder form and sprinkled it on his each week for 6-8 weeks, it was mind blowing watch it heal itself from pig intestine powder that activated his own stem cells to heal the area.

Right now football is on the back burn, it will get better and I will get interested again soon. Just pray a lot of things are fixed in our system, we have been enslaved far too long to these bureaucrats. See y'all around..
Thoughts and prayers, buddy—hang in there. I think I mentioned this before to you, but the guy that played next to me in college has had back issues since our sophomore year. He broke his back as a U.S. Army Ranger, then retired from a long career in law enforcement—he grins and bears it the best he can. I know we've discussed him before. But there can't be many other lingering conditions worse than a bad back. He had to retire when he couldn't get a consistent grip on his firearm. They did bring him back to work with cold cases.

Merry Christmas
 
SK yea your friend and myself talked some on Facebook and text, the device that helped him wouldn't help me per the Surgeons so I had to elect for neck surgery and in a few years from now I will have to have more in my neck then most likely in my lumbar spine. Hopefully by then they force insurance to pay for stem cell treatments that's used in other countries.

Merry Christmas to all and to the Coaches who reads this board..
 
SK yea your friend and myself talked some on Facebook and text, the device that helped him wouldn't help me per the Surgeons so I had to elect for neck surgery and in a few years from now I will have to have more in my neck then most likely in my lumbar spine. Hopefully by then they force insurance to pay for stem cell treatments that's used in other countries.

Merry Christmas to all and to the Coaches who reads this board..
Yeah, I remember. I feel for both of you. He is one tough bastard - Marry Christmas
 
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