Other than IMG not being able to compete in the state playoffs what's the difference between these two schools?
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I agree but that is because they haven't scheduled them Venice is set to play them this year. I agree Miami teams are very talented but they all have their up and down years this doesn't seem to happen for STA. I agree I am sure some of the kids come from around the area but I'm willing to bet they get their fair share of kids from the Miami area along with who ever else they can pick up from opposing schools in the area. I understand being a fan of the team so you're bias but the FHSAA should step in my opinion. STA has been loaded for a long long time.99% of STA's players probably live within and/or went to middle school 20 miles of the school.
Can't say the same about IMG.
There are more teams in STA's geographical region that occasionally compete with and sometimes upset them.
Can't say the same about IMG.
It's easy to say it's socialism when you're always on the winning side. Just because they've done it a long time doesn't make it right. I'm glad the rule has changed I hope IMG is allowed to compete for a state title now that it has been lifted. STA is doing everything they're legally allowed to do but don't act like they're not taking advantage of it.So if a team is loaded for a long time, and playing by the rules set in place for them, the FHSSA should step in?
They essentially did. All schools private or public are essentially open enrollment now?
What else do you want?
STA to start all games outside of Broward and Dade -21 pts in the hole?
HS Football socialism at it's finest...
It's easy to say it's socialism when you're always on the winning side. Just because they've done it a long time doesn't make it right. I'm glad the rule has changed I hope IMG is allowed to compete for a state title now that it has been lifted. STA is doing everything they're legally allowed to do but don't act like they're not taking advantage of it.
I won't act like they are not taking maximizing the rules put forth to them but don't act like other privates are not operating to their max also. Don't act like schools like TCA, CCC, Tampa Catholic , Chaminade-Madonna and many others don't max out the same way.
Again, it helps when you are a winner, right?
It ain't bad. It's simply facts. Chaminade-Madonna has been very active with transfers of late as have most successful private schools.Yo yo yo. dont go'n say know bad stuff bowt Madonna... U onnt knead know prollems see.
I understand where you coming from but you got to understand how we see it down here in sfla... People only tripping about STA.. They don't care about what the other privates are doing or how many championships they are winning such as TCA.. Honestly we have othe privates that are great programs such as AHP, Columbus, Chaminade... But like I will always say publics some how compete and beat them including STA... It's a reason Columbus I believe hasn't win state yet and they are gonna be loaded this up coming year... It's a reason AHP has won back to back ships every year.. I honestly think they should drop one class and mix the top classes up.....I'm just say the FHSAA needs to look at it closer they will probably still win a lot of ball games once the transfer rule kicks in but at least now it is an even playing field it's been something that has been taken advantage of by all private schools not just STA.
Other than IMG not being able to compete in the state playoffs what's the difference between these two schools?
It ain't bad. It's simply facts. Chaminade-Madonna has been very active with transfers of late as have most successful private schools.
And where are the receipts to back up these claims?IMG are not hypocrites about what they are doing.
They run a national program with recruiting, scouting, scheduling, D1 preparation, ACT test takers, etc. and freely admit that.
Sta does the same while claiming they don't.
Big difference.
And where are the receipts to back up these claims?
They are written in English.
And to see something written in English, it has to be on paper or text or pics, sooooo where's the receipts?They are written in English.
Exactly! Listen y'all gonna need to go extend further then those 18 miles to get more players at Venice...Don't you love it how the very minute Venice schedules IMG they start praising them, and start cross-referencing STA ....
Venice is the kind of program that insecurely looks for approval and praise the moment they want to start doing things that elite teams do. I.e. "Look at me everybody!'
Here's a hint: That stuff is earned with grit, not talked about in February....
And to see something written in English, it has to be on paper or text or pics, sooooo where's the receipts?
Exactly! Listen y'all gonna need to go extend further then those 18 miles to get more players at Venice...
I'm going to Haiti next month so let me get that goud!
He's only mad at STA cause a lot of kids in a Fertil area want to go play there.. But not mad at no other private schools that operates the same way. Then wants to compare a boarding school to a private school... Like really....Radius is beyond 18 miles already.....Several of the top 10 players on the Venice roster have only been at Venice a year or two. In fact the top 2016 offensive and defensive player at Venice COMBINED only attended Venice 2 1/2 years.
Yet STA is a PRIVATE and when they operate in that fashion. They are in wrong....
He's only mad at STA cause a lot of kids in a Fertil area want to go play there.. But not mad at no other private schools that operates the same way. Then wants to compare a boarding school to a private school... Like really....
i heard about a rumor about a team down my way that might be playing IMG but I can confirm the team will be playing Bishop Gorman. AHP beat IMG before...I wouldn't Praise IMG... I do hope y'all can shock the world though.
Don't you love it how the very minute Venice schedules IMG they start praising them, and start cross-referencing STA ....
Venice is the kind of program that insecurely looks for approval and praise the moment they want to start doing things that elite teams do. I.e. "Look at me everybody!'
Here's a hint: That stuff is earned with grit, not talked/bragged about in February....
I am not a Venice or IMG guy I just want to know where you're coming from with all of this? I didn't see anyone praise IMG do they have an advantage over most teams they play? Yes. Are they allowed to compete in state playoffs? No. Does STA have an advantage (Along with other private schools) over the teams they play? Yes. Those are facts Venice will just have to deal with it if they want to win a state championship. As for STA winning championships starting in February with their "Grit" I'm assuming you mean hardwork and toughness because you're talking about the off season. STA does not win with those things they win with talent... pure talent.
I'm done comparing Venice to STA....I can barely compare Venice to McArthur or Mater Academy for starters....
You can think as you wish about why STA is successful. Talent and depth is absolutely the main reason, but it almost sounds as if you are insinuating that STA does not work as hard as other programs - like Venice. I can almost guarantee you that most of those STA kids have dedicated their lives to football for 7-11 months a year since they were probably 14 years old.
I am not going to comment how other counties or teams grind but I can tell you if at the FL Varsity HS level you are not training 8 months a year towards football - you are probably struggling to compete.
Ok since you cannot compare Venice to STA can you compare STA to Plant? or any other team they played in the playoffs? They won every game in a blow out. I assure you that programs on the west coast work hard and I'm sure some on the east coast do as well but don't think for a second that any extra sprints or lifts are the reasons why STA has won so much. They are a great program don't get me wrong but don't hold up you state trophy and think you had to over come any adversity. You can say teams are complaining and being sore losers all you want but it's a lot easier to do that too when the rules are in your favor.
I'm done comparing Venice to STA.
good thing he done AGAIN - he ready to stop now he said what he had to say. Pls stop, before he make me puke.
and Mainland swallows!Funny thing is when Armwood, Lakeland, Tampa Plant, and Manatee were winning all those titles on the gulf coast, and enticing athletes to come join their programs things were pretty quiet over there. Then an overated Venice gets spanked and it's the end of fairness. No one here is a STA or IMG fan. Really, name one ? You guys are preaching to the choir. Broward and Zoe are just repp'in S FL. And in some cases busting balls. Your complaints should be directed at the FHSAA. This is a "homer" dominated message board for Christ sake. It's about fun, entertainment, porn...ah..that's another site....Can't we all just get along ? No, but do you really want too ? BrowardHandicapper, STA sucks...
Now you have gone too far! Meet me at Trump's in Boca. You got a whuppin coming...and Mainland swallows!
Funny thing is when Armwood, Lakeland, Tampa Plant, and Manatee were winning all those titles on the gulf coast, and enticing athletes to come join their programs things were pretty quiet over there. Then an overated Venice gets spanked and it's the end of fairness. No one here is a STA or IMG fan. Really, name one ? You guys are preaching to the choir. Broward and Zoe are just repp'in S FL. And in some cases busting balls. Your complaints should be directed at the FHSAA. This is a "homer" dominated message board for Christ sake. It's about fun, entertainment, porn...ah..that's another site....Can't we all just get along ? No, but do you really want too ? BrowardHandicapper, STA sucks...
Now you have gone too far! Meet me at Trump's in Boca. You got whuppin coming...
Agree 100%. Play the game long enough and somebody will get you. No one is immune. There's some very clever individuals out there. Go cautiously my friend.I admit to this... I am a Broward/SFL homer and if fingers are pointed...I'm game.
I understand I may eat my words on a forum or message board but that is the risk I take.... That is kind of the concept of a forum...