I usually avoid college banter

[gatorman001]

I had to laugh at Norvell's indignation at the end of the game, over the flag plant. When the end zone of Ron Zook stadium has a grave yard of sod taken from other stadiums, to commemorate victories. In fact last year Norvell had no problem with his players leaving numerous divots in Florida field to do just that. If you're going to dish it in victory, you damn well better be ready to take it in defeat

 

[MarkECannon]

I know. Not sure what Norvell was so upset about. Yesterday, other winning teams planted flags on the center of the field of losing opponents and they didn’t have any problem with it.

 

[gatorman001]

I know. Not sure what Norvell was so upset about. Yesterday, other winning teams planted flags on the center of the field of losing opponents and they didn’t have any problem with it.

Apparently there was a issue at the Ohio State/ MicH game. After thinking about it over night, I think the issue was Norvell from a (Hey, the university just hired a OC, from a school where he was the head coach and my team jut got beat again for the 10th time this season) and how visiting recurits might look at it from a.......(FSU under Norvell sucks, look their even planting flags midfield after their win...do I really want to be part of that?) I believe it was all about him and not so much about anything to do with FSU. Not when He condoned his players making divots in Florida field last year...........it reaks of just a little bit of hypocrisy

 

[MarkECannon]

Hypocrisy is when you are calling for your coach to get fired early in the season and after he wins a few games now you want him to stay as your coach. Norvell believes in FSU. He turned down the Bama job because he has planted his flag in Tallahassee. By protecting his turf last night after an Gator player decided to run out on the field right in front of the FSU players and coaches to plant the Dead Gator Head on a Platter flag what do you expect the FSU response to be? Napier would have reacted the same way if a FSU player did that in Gainesville.

 

[gatorman001]

Hypocrisy is when you are calling for your coach to get fired early in the season and after he wins a few games now you want him to stay as your coach. Norvell believes in FSU. He turned down the Bama job because he has planted his flag in Tallahassee. By protecting his turf last night after an Gator player decided to run out on the field right in front of the FSU players and coaches to plant the Dead Gator Head on a Platter flag what do you expect the FSU response to be? Napier would have reacted the same way if a FSU player did that in Gainesville.

I'm not convinced the coach -Napier- is any different today than his cumulative record was after the Texas AM contest then.......situations and circumstances saved him ultimately, but make no mistake Napier heads into the 2025 season next year facing enormous expectations. I'm the one not all caught up in the moment of emotions, to not understand that.....relieved perhaps negative recruiting isn't necessarily the primary tool being used against Florida when it comes to recruiting probably more than anything else......Norvell(s) actions after the contest however to me illustrated in my mind the pure definition of hypocrisy.

 

[MarkECannon]

Silly Gator.

 

[Silver King]

It's a sign of the times, that Georgia Tech/ Georgia Marketing slogan ; "Clean old fashioned hate" just sat wrong with me, and the NCAA wonders why. It needs to be dealt with. The best thing I heard was one of the guys on Game Day, after hearing Michigan player saying OSU needed to take the loss and learn how to deal with it - he said, something like, how about learning how to win, too?

Sportsmanship is still mostly displayed after a game as a sign of respect. I was a bit of a talker, and had some battles with some guys I faced multiple years. But after the game we always made it a point to shake hands and wish each other well the rest of the season. In fact the toughest guy I faced from Southwestern, we hugged it out after the game his senior year after I told him that and I was glad to see him graduate. But that's how I was taught the game.

The guy from Michigan was right about this - you have 60 minutes to break bad - its pointless after the game. Go celebrate with your guys and hit the showers. Don't embarrass your program.

 

[MarkECannon]

SK, I was born in Atlanta and lived there the first 10 years of my life before moving to Sarasota in 1972. My father graduated from UGA. I was fully indoctrinated into the culture of Good Old Fashion Hate. I don’t remember it being called that then after we moved to Florida saw it as I watched a GT vs UGA game on TV. To be honest I understood the description and kind of liked it. It gave the rivalry game a proper description. I like the Clean (which sounds healthy, not cheating even though that’s not always true) Old Fashioned (it’s a tradition) Hate (we just celebrated Thanksgiving together and will attend church together tomorrow but today you are the Jackets and we are the Dawgs. We don’t necessarily have to like you today). Marketers have tried to give the UF vs FSU a title calling it The Sunshine Showdowm. FAIL. No one thinks about the game and says”Oh boy! It’s that time for The Sunshine Showdown!”.

 

[gatorman001]

Silver, Prior to the arrival of Vince Dooley the Georgia Tech and UGA was a fairly heated rivalry. My Friend Emmett who's dad and Emmett were UGA grad's. One night after he and I had reurned from a Florida versus UGA basketball game, Emmett pulled out some of his dad's old scarpbooks that dated back to the 1920's. I remember him showing me a old "Red and Black" (UGA student newspaper).that went back to that era in time. The headline on the cover page was "To Hell with Georgia" which as Emmett explained was a prety provocative headline for the time. The article as I recalled was a editorial of sorts that spoke to the upcoming game with Tech. Tech during the early 1900's was national power in football, I seem to recall that Tech holds the record for the most lopside score ever. Think they beat Cumberland University 225- 0, or something close to that........So the expression "Old fashion hate" is an expersion that goes way back. Obviously the rivalry lost some of its luster once Dooley came onto the scene, and present day I would say the state leans heavily toward UGA now. The road that links Commerce to Jefferson GA (just down the road from Athens), (I believe HWY 15 or 17) has a small bridge, and the winner of that game's fan base would spill gallons of paint on the bridge of the winning school colors after the game. Rivalry's that have long standing history's are like that all over the state, even on the HS level in Georgia.

 

[Silver King]

I understand it. But these are different times, times when real hate plays out on the streets of America, often with out any reason. Some of these kids come from places that are like war zones, and they're fighting their way out of that. Football gives them the tool of community and discipline to help them through life. You let this go and it gets worse. I hated it and mentioned on here when Miami got in that fight with FIU way back in 2006. Just Bush League and embarrassing for any program.

As for the state of Georgia football, by the time Mark arrive to Florida in 1972, the year I graduated I had been a Georgia Tech fan since Junior High- I remember the rivalry well. Being Italian, I was a huge Rock Perdoni fan. And that GT/Cumberland score was a test question on my PE Final in Junior High.

I also always took Georgia over Florida in a $2 bet every year with my QB in "The World's Biggest Cocktail Party." So I watched a lot of Georgia and Tech, and ate at the Varsity anytime I was in Atlanta.

 

[MarkECannon]

Point taken SK. Now for the Varsity experience;

“What do you have! What do you have! What do you have!”. “I’ll take the combo with 2 chili dogs, onion rings with a Coca Cola and a peach pie”. Enough calories and cholesterol to last you a month.

 

[gatorman001]

I understand it. But these are different times, times when real hate plays out on the streets of America, often with out any reason. Some of these kids come from places that are like war zones, and they're fighting their way out of that. Football gives them the tool of community and discipline to help them through life. You let this go and it gets worse. I hated it and mentioned on here when Miami got in that fight with FIU way back in 2006. Just Bush League and embarrassing for any program.

As for the state of Georgia football, by the time Mark arrive to Florida in 1972, the year I graduated I had been a Georgia Tech fan since Junior High- I remember the rivalry well. Being Italian, I was a huge Rock Perdoni fan. And that GT/Cumberland score was a test question on my PE Final in Junior High.

I also always took Georgia over Florida in a $2 bet every year with my QB in "The World's Biggest Cocktail Party." So I watched a lot of Georgia and Tech, and ate at the Varsity anytime I was in Atlanta.

When I was a kid, the Bradenton Herald would run a syndicated column who's headline was always the same."This week's Bottom Ten" with a picture of a big fat football player squashing a number of smaller players under his plumber's behind. I mention that as that is where I read about the Tech/Cumberland score.

Emmett's brother went to Tech and after graduating would later become the lead scientist at the Tennessee Valley Authority Browns Ferry nuclear facility.

Never cared much for the Varsity, Athens had a Varsity on the corner of Milledge Ave and Atlanta Hwy. It just recently was torn down, but went several times to the one in downtown Atlanta. When I 1st got into Management, my Marketing Director was from DC but was originally from Atlanta in Marietta. She loved going there, and so every time we'd drive together to go the Crown Rd facility she insisted we lunch there. I was always a Chilli dog with fries guy, everytime we went. Seems.like I also recall a Varsity off the Jimmy Carter exit as well off of I85.

Pic of Emmett and I at the Athens PO

 

[Silver King]

Almost a sin to pass through one of our famous cities and not sample the Coney dogs!

My favorite in order: Coney Island - Nathans; Cincinnati-Skyline Chili; Detroit-Layfette or American Coney; and Hotlanta the Varsity.

 

[MarkECannon]

I used to buy the Skyline Chili in the frozen section of the grocery store. I actually liked it until it didn’t like me.

 

[Silver King]

I used to buy the Skyline Chili in the frozen section of the grocery store. I actually liked it until it didn’t like me.

They have one across from Page Field in Ft Myers