I 1st heard this from Josh Wilson so here is his write up
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Since this is not a full news story yet and is more of being floated through a committee I would open a thread to discussion on what Frank Beasley, one of the director of athletics for the FHSAA, has proposed for changes to the football system.
Now of course anything is not official right now (as in changes actually happening) and must go through committee and then be officially voted upon by the Board of Directors. It is a process that could take up to two years. Here is a link to the info: http://www.fhsaa.org...agenda/2016.pdf
I will just give a brief run down of what is being discussed around and let you all weigh in on it.
The proposal for smaller schools is to allow them be assigned a classification, but they would play no district schedule, instead the schedule would be controlled by the teams themselves and points would be awarded depending on games won and who they won against.
Here are some bullet points with that.
- Allows teams to control travel cost and competition during the regular season
- SAFETY! You schedule who you want, who you feel best fits your kids and program goals.
- Allows for a true champion to be crowned
- Creates excitement
- Allows Schools to schedule who they want during the regular season
- Allows teams an opportunity to make the playoffs on an equal playing field
- Adds some excitement to the end of season (seeding) (Press conference to announce in FHSAA office)
- Create a seeding committee that will compile raw data to seed
- Makes 8 regular season games count
Smaller classes playoff format would work like this under the proposal discussion
- 4 regions per class
- 8 teams from each region make the playoffs, however in 1A Rural 4 teams in each region would make the playoffs instead..
- 32 teams per class make the playoffs, however in 1A Rural 16 teams in each class would make the playoffs instead.
- 5 rounds, with only 4 rounds in 1A Rural
- No region schedule required
- Teams would schedule their own games
Larger school classifications they would keep the district type formatting (sort of going towards a regional format)
- Unfair for smaller districts to gain entry into the playoffs
- Penalizes a tough district with 3 or more teams that are deserving a playoff berth vs a weaker district who gets two average teams in
- Stops all of the jockeying for district reassignment
- Allows for a true champion to be crowned
- Creates excitement
- Allows teams an opportunity to make the playoffs on an equal playing field
- Adds some excitement to the end of season (seeding) (Press conference to announce in FHSAA office)
- Create a seeding committee that will compile raw data to seed
- Makes 8 regular season games count
There are some concerns with it as in dealing with forfeited games, weather issues, scheduling a full schedule and out-of-state games counting in the mix.
So how would teams make the playoffs? A points system would be the key to all of this.
Each team will receive a points each week based on the following:
- 4 points for a win in your own class or below
- 5 points for a win against a team in a larger class
- 2 points for a loss against a larger class
- 1 point for each of your opponents earned wins (all games played that season through week 11)
Which games count?
- Starting from week 11 and counting back 8 of your games will count for seeding purposes. (Leaves wiggle room for cancellations for weather)
How would ties be broken if it is tied with other schools?
- Win-loss percentage.
- If teams have the same record, the next tiebreaker is how the teams did head-to-head.
- If the tie still can’t be broken, it will come down to number of wins against teams from larger classifications.
- If teams are tied through record, head-to-head and wins against larger schools, it could come down to margin of points over 10 regular-season games, with a maximum of 21 in each. (This would be a capped point system, something very similar that is used in Texas).
- Coin toss
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MY TAKE:
To be honest, I like what I am seeing here, but this won't be the total solution to everything. This will certainly add more excitement to to everything going on towards the playoffs and make the playoffs better and thus keeping the bad teams out of the playoffs.
However, this won't solve the solution of the number of smaller private schools going independent. I don't see a lot of these independent teams coming back into it unless there is ways that the small school powers that dominate and that is part of the problem.
Really the state needs to embrace a two organization system like Alabama (AHSAA, AISA) and Georgia have (GHSA, GISA) and allow the SSAC to represent the smaller schools who want to be a part of their association and still have the opportunities to compete like they seek out.
So what is your thoughts on all of this? Share away and I will share more of my thoughts later on."
http://floridahsfootball.com/forums...ssion-docket-for-football-advisory-committee/
"
Since this is not a full news story yet and is more of being floated through a committee I would open a thread to discussion on what Frank Beasley, one of the director of athletics for the FHSAA, has proposed for changes to the football system.
Now of course anything is not official right now (as in changes actually happening) and must go through committee and then be officially voted upon by the Board of Directors. It is a process that could take up to two years. Here is a link to the info: http://www.fhsaa.org...agenda/2016.pdf
I will just give a brief run down of what is being discussed around and let you all weigh in on it.
The proposal for smaller schools is to allow them be assigned a classification, but they would play no district schedule, instead the schedule would be controlled by the teams themselves and points would be awarded depending on games won and who they won against.
Here are some bullet points with that.
- Allows teams to control travel cost and competition during the regular season
- SAFETY! You schedule who you want, who you feel best fits your kids and program goals.
- Allows for a true champion to be crowned
- Creates excitement
- Allows Schools to schedule who they want during the regular season
- Allows teams an opportunity to make the playoffs on an equal playing field
- Adds some excitement to the end of season (seeding) (Press conference to announce in FHSAA office)
- Create a seeding committee that will compile raw data to seed
- Makes 8 regular season games count
Smaller classes playoff format would work like this under the proposal discussion
- 4 regions per class
- 8 teams from each region make the playoffs, however in 1A Rural 4 teams in each region would make the playoffs instead..
- 32 teams per class make the playoffs, however in 1A Rural 16 teams in each class would make the playoffs instead.
- 5 rounds, with only 4 rounds in 1A Rural
- No region schedule required
- Teams would schedule their own games
Larger school classifications they would keep the district type formatting (sort of going towards a regional format)
- Unfair for smaller districts to gain entry into the playoffs
- Penalizes a tough district with 3 or more teams that are deserving a playoff berth vs a weaker district who gets two average teams in
- Stops all of the jockeying for district reassignment
- Allows for a true champion to be crowned
- Creates excitement
- Allows teams an opportunity to make the playoffs on an equal playing field
- Adds some excitement to the end of season (seeding) (Press conference to announce in FHSAA office)
- Create a seeding committee that will compile raw data to seed
- Makes 8 regular season games count
There are some concerns with it as in dealing with forfeited games, weather issues, scheduling a full schedule and out-of-state games counting in the mix.
So how would teams make the playoffs? A points system would be the key to all of this.
Each team will receive a points each week based on the following:
- 4 points for a win in your own class or below
- 5 points for a win against a team in a larger class
- 2 points for a loss against a larger class
- 1 point for each of your opponents earned wins (all games played that season through week 11)
Which games count?
- Starting from week 11 and counting back 8 of your games will count for seeding purposes. (Leaves wiggle room for cancellations for weather)
How would ties be broken if it is tied with other schools?
- Win-loss percentage.
- If teams have the same record, the next tiebreaker is how the teams did head-to-head.
- If the tie still can’t be broken, it will come down to number of wins against teams from larger classifications.
- If teams are tied through record, head-to-head and wins against larger schools, it could come down to margin of points over 10 regular-season games, with a maximum of 21 in each. (This would be a capped point system, something very similar that is used in Texas).
- Coin toss
--------------
MY TAKE:
To be honest, I like what I am seeing here, but this won't be the total solution to everything. This will certainly add more excitement to to everything going on towards the playoffs and make the playoffs better and thus keeping the bad teams out of the playoffs.
However, this won't solve the solution of the number of smaller private schools going independent. I don't see a lot of these independent teams coming back into it unless there is ways that the small school powers that dominate and that is part of the problem.
Really the state needs to embrace a two organization system like Alabama (AHSAA, AISA) and Georgia have (GHSA, GISA) and allow the SSAC to represent the smaller schools who want to be a part of their association and still have the opportunities to compete like they seek out.
So what is your thoughts on all of this? Share away and I will share more of my thoughts later on."
http://floridahsfootball.com/forums...ssion-docket-for-football-advisory-committee/